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Plot Question
shebang — Fri, 05/14/2010 - 05:17
I was just rereading Lies again recently, and a point in the plot stuck out as odd to me.
The whole point of Locke's angle in the Salvara game was that the Salvaras would be in on the fact that he was conning them, but have no choice other than to go along with his requests due to the fake midnighter's instructions.
It would stand to reason that Locke should expect to be treated rather less cordially by the Salvara's after they are made aware of his true identity, so why then was he unable to sniff out the trap set by the spider in Ravens Reach? Shouldn't it be obvious to him that the Salvara's, knowing what they know about his real identity, would be crazy to invite him to the Duke's feast unless they had some other motive? The whole situation should have put him on his guard.
Anyone else feel the same way, or am I reading too much into this?
Hmm, I haven't read the book
Sabetha — Fri, 05/14/2010 - 17:05Hmm, I haven't read the book in a while, so I could be way off, but wasn't Locke put in a position where he HAD to go? Or maybe he didn't think they'd try and arrest him (making a massive scene) in front of so many important people on such an important occasion. Locke had no idea the real Midnighters' were in on the whole thing, afterall. So I guess he would've been suspicious of their invite, but maybe not enough to deter him as he doesn't know the Spider is waiting for him. And he's a massive show off so wouldn't have turned it down anyway ;)
But i'd need to re-read the book to give you a proper answer :)
I completely agree with
TheSpider — Fri, 05/14/2010 - 22:26I completely agree with Sabetha.
If I remember correctly; Locke did not have much choice. He and Jean were in a poor situation (literally): they had barely escaped a terrible fate; they were completely broke but dying to avenge their dead fellow GBs. Of course if they had been able to think it through, they would maybe have realized that something was off. But they did not have many options nor much time. The Salvara game was already in place and was going pretty smoothly until then. It was pretty much the only option they had to lay their hands on a large amount of cash in a very short period.
And if you really think about it, it was really a desperate move. Even if they had gotten a promissory note from the Salvaras, it would have been extremely risky to cash it... The Grey King's men were probably watching Lukas Fehrwight's account at Meragio's. I think Locke and Jean were so hell-bent on getting revenge that they did not care about being reckless.
Furthermore, we're talking about Locke , who is SO arrogant in his confidence games that he often makes huge mistakes.
I did not have trouble with the plot of LoLL. RSuRS is a bit different....
I agree that they were in a
shebang — Tue, 06/01/2010 - 05:25I agree that they were in a desperate situation, and that going along with the Salvaras was might have been a good option. However the thing I found odd is that Locke and Jean never even seem to entertain the notion that it might be a trap.
I just can't get around the fact that is silly that they wouldn't realize something was up. And quite honestly, if they suspected the trap in Raven's reach it would be crazy for Locke to go no matter how desperate the situation, since the chances of him escaping it would be pretty low.
I guess the only way to rationalize it is to assume Locke and Jean were just overconfident and arrogant, as you said. Although I still find it hard to swallow.
Locke is an emotional guy.
CoupeDeGrace — Fri, 06/04/2010 - 05:06Locke is an emotional guy. His scams always seem to suffer from that fact. With most of his family dead and his every waking thought devoted to revenge, it's easy to assume that Locke's critical thinking skills had been dulled quite a bit.