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More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Roland of Gilead — Fri, 08/14/2009 - 15:50

These two individuals have connections in the publishing field and here is their latest discussion over on the Terry Brooks forum. I'm not sure if this is good news or not - sort of depends on how long the editing takes, I suppose.

Anne told me at Comic Con that she expected to have the book in two weeks. That was three weeks ago now? Something like that. So supposedly the third book should be in Anne's hands. And since she is an exceptional editor, I would imagine she will put him through extensive rewrites that will take some time, but we should know something about Lynch within the next two months I'd say, if not sooner.
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Are we talking about Lynch? He was still writing chapters last week according to Twitter and I keep bugging Gollancz to let me know when he submits the book. Gollancz have first dibs on publishing his work, but I'm not sure if that means he hands in the MS to them first, or to them and Bantam simultaneously. I think it's the latter.
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RE: Will It Ever Be Published? Report this post
Posted: Today @ 12:23 AM
Yes, we are talking about Lynch. Anne told me and a multitude of others, at Comic Con she expected Scott to deliver the third book within two weeks. Two weeks have passed. The book must be done and in her hands or about to enter her hands. Either way, the book is close to being delivered, which is a good thing.

And yes, just because a publisher has a "first publishing clause -- Terry has one with Del Rey, although the Italian publisher has broken it a few times -- doesn't mean the manuscript is delayed for the latter publisher. They get it at the same time. Usually.

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Sabetha — Fri, 08/14/2009 - 16:36

So what does this mean, all in all?

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Roland of Gilead — Fri, 08/14/2009 - 21:01

Well, I take it to mean the book is very close to being finished. If the edits aren't extensive, I would hope to see the book in early 2010.

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Icarus — Sat, 08/15/2009 - 02:07

Roland of Gilead wrote:
Well, I take it to mean the book is very close to being finished. If the edits aren't extensive, I would hope to see the book in early 2010.

Although I think he is somewhat mocking us, I think that the fact that he has been more active on Livejournal and Twitter in the last several weeks than in the last year is a positive sign about his writing status.

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Sabetha — Sat, 08/15/2009 - 12:45

Ok, thanks :) It seems he's currently 'editing' it himself, judging by his twitter, so hopefully that will cut the editing process as a whole anyway.

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

TheSpider — Wed, 08/19/2009 - 14:27

This is unbearable! :cry:
No announcement has been made nor can I find an ArmadilloCon report mentioning Scott and/or his reading!

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Sabetha — Thu, 08/20/2009 - 18:49

Spider, he's making the report in the next two days, and he def did a reading and apparently it was good :)

I can't wait for the RoT announcement either!

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

TheSpider — Sun, 08/23/2009 - 20:39

Report: http://scott-lynch.livejournal.com/240083.html

Part about the reading:

Quote:
I had meant to read a relatively serious interlude from The Republic of Thieves, in which Locke Lamora is invested in the rituals of a mystery cult on the night of his thirteenth birthday, but I decided to go with something a little more adventurous, an interlude called "The Boy Who Chased Red Dresses," in which Young Locke goes toe-to-toe with Young Sabetha in a battle of wits (Hint: He gets schooled). The audience reaction and laughter were pretty gratifying, especially when I later discovered how relatively few people there were familiar with my previous work. I read for just over an hour, then blathered for nearly another, at which point people from the convention showed up with nets and tranquilizer darts.

I've heard from other authors that announcements (or hints) were made during the reading, but could not get more details... I can't wait!!! :D

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Re: More Information re: RoT from Other Sources

Sabetha — Mon, 08/24/2009 - 17:55

I wish he'd just post a bloody excerpt! If he's allowed to read them then surely he's allowed to post them!

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There's a site:

Elfy — Tue, 12/15/2009 - 08:43

There's a site: http://en.risingshadow.net/index.php?option=com_library&action=coming_bo... that lists ALL of the upcoming releases. It has The Bastards And The Knives listed as a 2010 release, no specific month. Republic of Thieves is down as a July 2010 release. No idea where they got their info from, but at least it is still on people's radar. I'll believe it when I see it.

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The july date for RoT is

Sabetha — Fri, 12/18/2009 - 20:47

The july date for RoT is reasonable, I guess, even though we're still unsure if Scott's handed in the manuscript (I get the impression he's still writing/editing), and if that's the case we wont be seeing it until fall/winter 2010.

I don't believe the TBatK is out next year. Not for a second.

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Me either, Sabetha. Be nice

Elfy — Sun, 12/20/2009 - 11:23

Me either, Sabetha. Be nice if someone could at least let the fans know where Scott is at with anything. This radio silence he keeps dropping into is extremely frustrating. Other writers take ages too, but they do at least maintain some sort of regular online presence, with Scott we don't know whether he's alive or dead. I wonder if after Lies being so well received and Red Seas not so well that he feels pressure to really hit it with Thieves and he's not handling it that well.

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I imagine it would be that

Sabetha — Sun, 12/20/2009 - 11:37

I imagine it would be that exactly, plus the now added pressure of being extremely late with delivering the book, especially considering he was so positive he would never ever hand a manuscript in late. Oh, and his personal problems too, which undoubtedly hindered his writing. At any rate, it doesn't take two minutes to drop us a note on Livejournal/twitter.

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More personal problems? I

Elfy — Mon, 12/21/2009 - 04:12

More personal problems? I thought he was over that when he returned. You're right it doesn't take much time to drop a note and it's courteous as well.

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Doesn't he have swine flu

Sabetha — Tue, 12/22/2009 - 19:02

Doesn't he have swine flu atm? Or did have. I'd count that as a personal problem. It's none of my business anyways, I'd just like a few updates every now and again, as you said. It's really not too much to ask.

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Even if he does have swine

Elfy — Thu, 12/24/2009 - 08:05

Even if he does have swine flu as he claims, surely he could make a short update. He could get someone else to type in, Merry Christmas, hope to see you all next year when Republic comes out. Come to think of it I think that's my Christmas message to the people on this site.

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Haha, smoothly done ;) Merry

Sabetha — Sat, 12/26/2009 - 14:30

Haha, smoothly done ;) Merry christmas too <3

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Has anyone actually heard

Elfy — Fri, 01/15/2010 - 11:22

Has anyone actually heard anything about RoT being released this year? Scott's site is, as always, inactive. I've been reading on other blogs that people believe that the book will be released this year and the publisher also listed it. However bloggers and publishers have been saying that about A Dance with Dragons since 2007 and Martin is a lot more active on the web than Scott is.

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This is all I've heard: "The

Sabetha — Sat, 01/16/2010 - 16:15

This is all I've heard:

"The manuscript has not been handed in at this point, though Lynch recently confirmed it will be out in 2010."

They'll have to do some fast editing if that's the case. Or maybe it just means very late 2010. In all honesty, I reckon we'll be waiting until early 2011, but I could be entirely wrong, of course (and pleasantly surprised).

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It depends on when in 2010

Elfy — Sun, 01/17/2010 - 11:08

It depends on when in 2010 they get the manuscript. If it's early or even mid way through the year then they can get it out before the end, if it's any later than July forget about it. Editors don't seem to do a lot these days, other than correct spelling, grammar and punctuation. Works by big selling authors seem to me to be woefully under edited.

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I agree. It turns out that

Sabetha — Mon, 01/18/2010 - 11:59

I agree. It turns out that Scott is actually handing in the manuscript chunks at a time, which I guess is good news. Better some than nothing.

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Where did you get that from,

Elfy — Tue, 01/19/2010 - 09:49

Where did you get that from, Sabetha? I do agree it's better than nothing, be nice to know how many chapters he's already handed in. Very unusual way to edit and somewhat disjointed I would have thought.

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Scott's wife said, 'Scott is

Sabetha — Wed, 01/20/2010 - 19:24

Scott's wife said, 'Scott is working on TRoT, and I have been reading portions of it that have been sent off to his editors. Ya'll will love it. That's all I will say.'

Reading that again, I might have misinterpreted. Rather, she's been reading bits and pieces in general.

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No, it sounds like you read

Elfy — Fri, 01/22/2010 - 08:38

No, it sounds like you read it right. Good to know that he's still working and the book is on the way. That's from a decent source too. Shame Scott can't find the time to post that to his own site, because that's where most people will go to find out about Republic. Funny that.

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New rumor but it comes from

TheSpider — Wed, 01/27/2010 - 17:34

New rumor but it comes from trustworthy people!

RoT is currently being edited and is scheduled to be released in January 2011?

http://forums.terrybrooks.net/PostView.aspx?postid=821917

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Posted: 1/25/2010 9:24:18 PM
When I wrote his editor in October-ish, she said he was finishing up her final edits for the new book.

I didn't know about the H1N1 thing. That sucks. I hope he is okay too.

I'll shoot Anne an email and ask.

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Posted: Yesterday @ 9:48 AM
Both Scott and his wife are fine.

So fine, in fact, that Scott should be delivering his final edited draft of Republic to Anne on Wednesday. Smile

January 2011 is the publishing date Random House wants to go with. Very Happy

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I don't know much about the

toran — Thu, 01/28/2010 - 00:51

I don't know much about the behind the scenes stuff so I am just wondering if anyone could tell me why it takes 12 months to go from delivering a final edited draft (btw what does that mean exactly) to the shelves?

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I am not super familiar with

TheSpider — Thu, 01/28/2010 - 01:29

I am not super familiar with this process either, but I think in this case one of the reasons is that Random has lots of important releases this year. They may want to spread them around. Furthermore RoT will need a bit of extra promo since we have not heard from Scott Lynch for a while... People may have lost interest.
I think if they wanted to they could publish the book in 6-8 months, but there are other considerations...

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It's good news as it

Elfy — Thu, 01/28/2010 - 08:19

It's good news as it indicates definite progress. I'm happy that we do seem to have some sort of date, if the Jan 2011 date is right, it could even be earlier in the UK as I think Adam pointed out. I'm still not counting my chickens. There's no word from Scott (is there ever?) on his website, so until I either see that or see the book in the bookstore I'm not going to truly believe it's done. I know there are often long delays with publishing, but I think that would be shortened when you've got an established author like Lynch with a long awaited and delayed 3rd installment of a series ready to go. Then again Adam claims on the SFF World Forum that writers the likes of Karen Miller and Gail Z Martin outsell Lynch significantly. Sad, but true.

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Still annoying that we have

Sabetha — Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:28

Still annoying that we have to wait another whole year. Damn, it better be worth the wait, seriously. I have to admit, I didn't think a 2010 release looked likely all things considering, but I still had hope.

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The possible publishing

Elfy — Sun, 01/31/2010 - 03:55

The possible publishing schedule explains why it may take so long, Sabetha. I find it odd with an established author who has a long awaited volume coming out that they couldn't be more flexible, but they seem to work in strange ways in the field. This of course all hangs on whether the book is finished or not and the continuing radio silence from the author is not encouraging.

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I just can't wait until it's

Sabetha — Wed, 02/10/2010 - 00:25

I just can't wait until it's out :) I wish we could get another excerpt, hehe. Too much to ask of Mr Lynch, I suspect. We'll just have to wait ;)

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As I expected, there is news

Elfy — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 04:52

As I expected, there is news filtering through from Scott's publishers that they are now hopeful of a Spring 2011 release. Hopeful seems to be publisherspeak for probably not. It's not great news and it seems that unless you hear it from the author himself do not believe anything else.

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Yep, from Bantam Spectra

TheSpider — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 18:05

Yep, from Bantam Spectra Twitter: http://twitter.com/BantamSpectra
Then, Anne Groell (Spectra senior editor) told us we will--hopefully--be seeing Scott Lynch's REPUBLIC OF THIEVES #spring2011

Not surprising since the UK publisher has the rights to publish it first. So if the US release is Spring 2011, maybe holidays/Winter 2010-11 for UK.

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This is from Weathead over at

Don Scot A Ellison — Wed, 02/24/2010 - 14:27

This is from Weathead over at Ran's ASOIAF forum:

"Just heard that the book is in at Gollancz. Further revising and editing is required, but they are aiming for a simultaneous Spring 2011 release alongside the Bantam release in the USA."

Hoooraaaaahhhhh!!!

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This is good news and very

Elfy — Thu, 02/25/2010 - 07:33

This is good news and very encouraging, although I’d still like to hear something from the author himself. I think it’s also a good idea that the US and UK releases are going to be simultaneous. The publishers as much as the author need this release to be successful. If it flops then there is a very real danger that the rest of the series will never see the light of day. The delay makes this the most important release of Scott’s fledgling career. I hope that the long time between manuscript being delivered and published is being used to work on Volume 4 to ensure that there won’t be as long a wait with that. Releasing the short story collection, if it’s completed, in between RoT and The Thorn of Emberlain would also be a wise move, as even if there is a lengthy wait for TToE, fans will be kept happy and also intrigued.

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I agree with you, Elfy. Still

Sabetha — Tue, 03/02/2010 - 18:00

I agree with you, Elfy. Still can't believe we've waited three years for this book, four in the spring of 2011. What I actually hope, more than anything, is that they spend the time from now to RoTs release publicising it, really spreading the word. This means that Scott really needs to break his disrespectful and unnecessary silence. He doesn't appear to understand that he's only hurting himself and his book's success. He's got a devoted fan following, but he'll need more than that to keep his books from sinking.

However, I highly doubt the short stories will be released as they're not written. I recall hearing some time back that Scott doens't intend to write them until the GB series is done and dusted.

I also get the distinct feeling there wont be seven books if the delays keep occuring. His contract only covers five so i wonder if they'll cut him short.

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Whoa! Them’s fightin’ words,

Elfy — Fri, 03/05/2010 - 07:23

Whoa! Them’s fightin’ words, Sabetha! J
RoT really does need to be a winner on a few fronts for Scott and the continuation of the series. I’m going to go into ‘if’ territory here. If RoT comes out when we have been lead to believe it will and if is successful and if it is soon followed by The Thorn of Emberlain (I wonder if that’s Locke or someone else?) then I think Gollancz will commit to the last 2 books. That Scott has a 5 book deal does not surprise, actually it does. To give a new author that many books shows how much faith the publisher has in the work and the writer. I hadn’t heard that he didn’t intend to do the short stories until the end of the GB series (do you have a link to that?), in fact because one of the stories concerns the acquisition of the cask of Austershalin in TLoLL I think it would be a good idea to publish them in between instalments of the main series so that people don’t forget what they’re about.
While I wouldn’t call Scott’s radio silence disrespectful, it’s his blog, he can do what he wants with it, it is unnecessary, and probably not the wisest move he’s made careerwise. With the author unwilling to talk up, or even talk about, a new release, then that means the publisher has to work that much harder to promote it and ultimately they will recover those costs from the sale of the novel, which, depending on his deal, could affect the author’s cut.

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Oh yes, I know what you mean

Sabetha — Sun, 03/07/2010 - 19:42

Oh yes, I know what you mean when you say it's his blog so he can do what he wants, I just personally find it a bit disrespectful to the fans who apparantly email him inquiring about his release etc. only to be answered with silence. They're your FANS. It's polite to reply, imo. But I would never tell him what to do with his blog, as you say, it is his at the end of the day and holds no obligation to update on his books.

Argh, I can't remember where I read that he was waiting... I think it was in an old interview where he said something along the lines of 'I just want to focus on getting the books out first'. I honestly can't remember though, as it was some years back. Sorry! If i come across it again abviously I'll post a link.

I never thought about the Thorn Of Emberlain beging someone else! That's an interesting idea. I think ToE is set to be a good book anyway, if Sabetha and Locke are thrown in at the deep end again, with poor Jean in the middle. The last thing they need is ANOTHER thief making trouble.

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Interesting that Scott's site

Elfy — Mon, 03/08/2010 - 06:25

Interesting that Scott's site now seems to have a problem. I can't even hit it, anymore. Maybe he's decided to take it off the air.
It does make sense for him to concentrate on the main series before doing the short stories, but it would be nice if he had them partially completed and could finish them off and release them in between books, thus keeping the fans happy, while they wait for new ones.
Let's hope we can get RoT in our hands before we start theorising about ToE, although the idea just hit me when I was looking at the title. Locke has always been the Thorn of Camorr, so I just wondered if he could also be the Thorn of Emberlain. Poor Jean. I hope he can be something other than Locke's nursemaid and peacemaker.

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Scott just posted this

TheSpider — Tue, 03/09/2010 - 19:02

Scott just posted this message on his LiveJournal:
http://scott-lynch.livejournal.com/242814.html

I wish him all the best.

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Ditto. I'd wanted an

Sabetha — Tue, 03/09/2010 - 20:26

Ditto. I'd wanted an explanation on his absence for a long time, but I never wanted the reason behind it to be so severe. I hope things start looking up for him.

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Scott mentions RoT on his LJ

Elfy — Sat, 07/10/2010 - 07:41

Scott mentions RoT on his LJ (which is being updated regularly atm) and says that he is working on the revisions. He may actually hit that Spring 2011 release date.

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